Scarcities III
Excerpts from a semantic discourse with Kramer about what we term as "scarcity". I maintain there is no such thing and that we are in a world awash in over capacity. Kramer maintains that "distributional technologies" are at fault. In the end, we come to find that we are on common ground. And finally we are both working on the same problem...
Kramer: "Not without policy changes and paradigm shifts. It is the competency to make these happen - governance modes - that do not exist... If they did, we would see evidence of their effectiveness. The way to get the money where the mouths are remains to be discovered,
The obstacles are prisoners' dilemmas, and the outcomes are tragedies of the commons. The distributional problems left to be solved are coordination games. The solutions all look like "central planning," because a free society addresses that sort of problem last. "You eat what you kill" won't get it done. Now what?
All I'm saying is that the way to get the money where the mouths are remains to be discovered, because we still operate on the assumption that one must produce to earn, and with more capacity than we know how to move, that whole dynamic is an exercise in rope-pushing."
The Nattering One mused: The competencies exist and the ways have been discovered and are already known. It is as you say, the governance modes, that do not exist. Why?
Is it those who are in control? Or is this is a matter of the unknown known, or cognitively what we do not like to know? The disavowed beliefs, suppositions and obscene practices we pretend not to know about, and shake our heads about, even though they form the background of our public value.
Ultimately, its a matter of choices and good luck making it happen. People will not make those choices, hard choices, unless forced to out of necessity.
Along those lines, another reader commented "On our present course we are heading for Totalitarianism with modern feudalism."
My comment: Too many fat, happy, tranquilized, satiated and lazy people to fight the Dukedom. Getting mad isn't within their comfort zone. It may be the end days for this Roman empire...
As Salmo Trutta and I often say to each other, let us go to Rome "and the great whore will suckle us until we are fat and happy and can suckle no more."
You are correct in that up till now, the whole dynamic would seem to be an exercise in futility i.e. pushing on a string. However, the "dynamic" is subject to change. TBD.
Kramer: "However, the 'dynamic' is subject to change." I'm working on it. Are you?"
We Nattered: Every damn day Kramer, morning, noon and night. And sometimes even by osmosis...
Keep fighting the good fight.
Scarcities 1
Scarcities 2
Scarcities 3
Kramer: "Not without policy changes and paradigm shifts. It is the competency to make these happen - governance modes - that do not exist... If they did, we would see evidence of their effectiveness. The way to get the money where the mouths are remains to be discovered,
The obstacles are prisoners' dilemmas, and the outcomes are tragedies of the commons. The distributional problems left to be solved are coordination games. The solutions all look like "central planning," because a free society addresses that sort of problem last. "You eat what you kill" won't get it done. Now what?
All I'm saying is that the way to get the money where the mouths are remains to be discovered, because we still operate on the assumption that one must produce to earn, and with more capacity than we know how to move, that whole dynamic is an exercise in rope-pushing."
The Nattering One mused: The competencies exist and the ways have been discovered and are already known. It is as you say, the governance modes, that do not exist. Why?
Is it those who are in control? Or is this is a matter of the unknown known, or cognitively what we do not like to know? The disavowed beliefs, suppositions and obscene practices we pretend not to know about, and shake our heads about, even though they form the background of our public value.
Ultimately, its a matter of choices and good luck making it happen. People will not make those choices, hard choices, unless forced to out of necessity.
Along those lines, another reader commented "On our present course we are heading for Totalitarianism with modern feudalism."
My comment: Too many fat, happy, tranquilized, satiated and lazy people to fight the Dukedom. Getting mad isn't within their comfort zone. It may be the end days for this Roman empire...
As Salmo Trutta and I often say to each other, let us go to Rome "and the great whore will suckle us until we are fat and happy and can suckle no more."
You are correct in that up till now, the whole dynamic would seem to be an exercise in futility i.e. pushing on a string. However, the "dynamic" is subject to change. TBD.
Kramer: "However, the 'dynamic' is subject to change." I'm working on it. Are you?"
We Nattered: Every damn day Kramer, morning, noon and night. And sometimes even by osmosis...
Keep fighting the good fight.
Scarcities 1
Scarcities 2
Scarcities 3
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